{"id":42657,"date":"2026-10-21T19:26:04","date_gmt":"2026-10-21T17:26:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/?p=42657"},"modified":"2026-10-21T19:33:42","modified_gmt":"2026-10-21T17:33:42","slug":"comments-on-the-publication-by-rachel-s-kirby-penelope-l-king-and-andrew-g-tomkins-a-statistical-investigation-into-relationships-between-the-iie-irons-and-the-ordinary-f-and-h","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/?p=42657","title":{"rendered":"Comments on the publication by Rachel S. Kirby, Penelope L. King, and Andrew G. Tomkins \u201cA statistical investigation into relationships between the IIE irons and the ordinary, F and \u2018HH\u2019 chondrites.\u201dMeteoritics &amp; Planetary Science 60, Nr 10, 2376\u20132400"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Marina A. Ivanova, Michael K. Weisberg<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MAPS, Version of Record online: 20 October 2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1111\/maps.70240\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>LINK<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"justify-text\">&#8220;These comments are devoted to our observations based on recently reviewing publications regarding reduced ungrouped chondrites (F-, HH, and others). In these publications, the authors defined a group of \u201cF-chondrites,\u201d comprising previously ungrouped chondrites of petrologic types 3 and 4 that exhibit very low fayalite (Fa) content. One publication concluded that certain reduced chondrites belonged to the F-group based solely on cluster analysis, disregarding previously published petrologic data for these meteorites. We propose that the meteorites classified as F-chondrites in these publications actually comprise at least two distinct groups: the F-chondrites and metal-rich, matrix-free chondrites of the \u201cG\u201d group. The average olivine composition in F-chondrites is Fa4.06\u2009\u00b1\u20091.48\u2009mole%, whereas in G-group chondrites it is Fa0.70\u2009\u00b1\u20090.43\u2009mole%. Notably, it is impossible to determine the petrologic type of G-group chondrites due to differences in the evolution and thermal history of their parent asteroid, and reduced chondrites, also G chondrites and reduced chondrites are very different in texture and petrography.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/?p=42612\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Reply to comments on the publication \u201cA statistical investigation into the relationships between the IIE irons and the ordinary, F and \u201cHH\u201d chondrites.\u201dMeteoritics &amp; Planetary Science 60, 2376\u20132400<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>R. S. Kirby, P. L. King, A. G. Tomkins<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MAPS, Version of Record online: 05 October 2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/?p=39046\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>A statistical investigation into the relationships between the IIE irons and the ordinary, F and \u201cHH\u201d chondrites.<\/strong><\/a> (published online: 5 September 2025)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/epdf\/10.1111\/maps.70040\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>PDF (OPEN ACCESS)<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Marina A. Ivanova, Michael K. Weisberg MAPS, Version of Record online: 20 October 2026 LINK &#8220;These comments are devoted to our observations based on recently reviewing publications regarding reduced ungrouped chondrites (F-, HH, and others)&#8230;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[59,1557,4835,951],"tags":[1841,5252,4831,1731],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42657"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=42657"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42657\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":42661,"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42657\/revisions\/42661"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=42657"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=42657"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/karmaka.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=42657"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}